How Does Temur Ascendancy Work?

Temur Ascendancy
Temur Ascendancy

Wondering how Temur Ascendancy (or at least the Temur Ascendancy combo) works?

So was Mike!

Patrick explains the mechanics of this crazy new combo deck… And more!

TLDR:

  • Patrick Chapin and Mike Flores explore three decks from this past weekend’s winner’s circle:
  • The nuances of B/U Control (both the recent Grand Prix win and how one listener took down a Preliminary Pro Tour Qualifier with Top Level Podcast’s build from last week)
  • The rise of G/R Devotion
  • How Temur Ascendancy works! (duh)

Why does Patrick favor consistency versus Mike favoring explosiveness?

Does Abzan Aggro (versus Abzan Midrange) help expert players hold their natural edges?

General nuances of Standard / which skills does Standard reward?

B/U Control

  • One selling point of B/U Control is how intuitive it can be
  • Twenty-seven lands? Mike can get behind twenty-eight.
  • Radiant Fountain… Gotta play four
  • Is Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver overrated?
  • Patrick corrects Mike’s sideboarding
  • Is it ever right to play 61 cards?
  • The best match of Magic Mike has ever played
  • How to play Abzan v. B/U Control

G/R Devotion and G/R Big Mana

  • Whisperwood Elemental is the card that puts this strategy back on the map
  • Effectively “six power in bodies” for five mana that gives you defense against Crux of Fate, End Hostilities, and even Ugin

Temur Ascendancy Combo

  • Temur Ascendancy + Voyaging Satyr + Temur Sabretooth –> Patrick explains how this is a big, big mana, combo
  • Temur Ascendancy Combo can play like an old school Fires of Yavimaya deck or a Green Devotion deck
  • “Wildly inconsistent.” -Patrick Chapin
  • All this and more in “How Does Temur Ascendancy Work?”

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    Editor’s Note:
    Chapin forgot Memphis was this weekend (this podcast indicates it is next weekend)… He’ll still be there!

    Become Immense and Gurmag Angler

    Become Immense
    “If you’re going to play Infect, it is indefensible to not play four Become Immense.”

    Patrick Chapin and Michael J Flores originally intended to talk about the various decks fielded by Patrick’s team — and the greatest team on Earth — the Pantheon at Pro Tour Fate Reforged.

    But…

    They end up recording some not-originally-intended-for-public-consumption chatter about Mike’s struggles in some recent PPTQs, disillusion with the Abzan clan, and general inability to win that results in a spontaneous brewer’s delight!

    In a kind of prequel to the main episode, you can listen as Patrick and Michael assemble a B/U Control deck for Standard designed to combat a format of largely Abzan decks, and how two of Magic’s most decorated deck designers approach metagaming, card selection, and sideboarding… While the microphones are “supposed” to be off.

    The result?

    B/U Control by Top Level Podcast

    2 Perilous Vault
    2 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

    1 Thoughtseize
    4 Bile Blight
    2 Crux of Fate
    4 Hero’s Downfall
    2 Murderous Cut

    4 Dig Through Time
    2 Disdainful Stroke
    4 Dissolve
    2 Divination
    3 Jace’s Ingenuity
    1 Pearl Lake Ancient

    4 Dismal Backwater
    3 Opulent Palace
    4 Island
    4 Polluted Delta
    4 Radiant Fountain
    3 Swamp
    4 Temple of Deceit
    1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

    Sideboard
    3 Drown in Sorrow
    2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
    3 Thoughtseize
    2 Aetherspouts
    2 Disdainful Stroke
    1 Treasure Cruise
    2 Silumgar, the Drifting Death

    Some notes from our hosts:

    • You don’t need more finishers – Ugin finishes everybody
    • You can side in Tasigur against “all opponents”
    • Some cool ways to gain percentage in how you pick your lands
    • Why you play Drown in Sorrow when it isn’t really the best in very many situations
    • How Silumgar, the Drifting Death beats up Elspeth, Sun’s Champion and Abzan in general
    • “Boring is fine as long as you’re winning”

    Patrick and Michael move on to Modern and talk about some of the successful decks of the Pantheon. Hall of Famer Jelger Wiegersma cracked Top 8 with a “stock” U/R Splinter Twin deck, and Jon Finkel finished out of the Top 8 on tiebreakers. Lots of in-depth discussion of these Modern archetypes — plus how to play with Amulet of Vigor — in the Modern middle section!

    Including this observation:
    “If you’re going to play Infect, it is indefensible to not play four Become Immense.”

    Finally, Patrick didn’t do well in the Modern portion of Pro Tour Fate Reforged himself… But he still loves his deck.

    “I’ve never gone 0-5 and been super happy with a deck before.”

    Have you seen his Modern deck?

    Just try to listen to “Become Immense and Gurmag Angler” without falling in love with it!

    Esper Delve by Patrick Chapin

    4 Mishra’s Bauble

    4 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
    4 Gurmag Angler
    2 Inquisition of Kozilek
    3 Liliana of the Veil
    2 Thoughtseize

    4 Gitaxian Probe
    4 Serum Visions
    4 Stubborn Denial
    4 Thoughtscour

    2 Lingering Souls
    4 Path to Exile

    4 Darkslick Shores
    2 Flooded Strand
    1 Godless Shrine
    1 Hallowed Fountain
    2 Island
    2 Marsh Flats
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Swamp
    2 Watery Grave

    Sideboard
    3 Fulminator Mage
    3 Engineered Explosives
    2 Timely Reinforcements
    2 Kataki War’s Wage
    1 Deathmark
    1 Lingering Souls
    1 Plains
    1 Spellskite
    1 Meddling Mage

    All this and more in “Become Immense and Gurmag Angler”

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    The Secrets of Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

    Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
    Ugin, the Spirit Dragon put up a number of great results at the first opportunity:
    a Star City Games Standard Open in Washington, DC.

    Featured in multiple, distinct, strategies, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon was nevertheless only one of several Fate Reforged cards to make an immediate impact.

    But what is the “secret combo” that Ugin, the Spirit Dragon shares with another one of Fate Reforged’s hot new additions?

    Listen to the podcast and find out!

    Patrick Chapin and Michael Flores run through a Standard Top 8 that features exciting new archetypes by Grand Prix Champion Gerard Fabiano and onetime US National Champion Ali Aintrazi, go all-in Azorius Heroic, and explore updates to metagame favorites like Boros Tokens, Abzan Aggro, and Abzan Midrange.

    “The Secrets of Ugin, the Spirit Dragon” covers…

    • The question of just how good Tasigur, the Golden Fang is proving to be (already)
    • All different kinds of Sieges (in all different colors)
    • An all new archetype of creature-poor (but not creature-less) control
    • Whether Sylvan Caryatid sucks
    • Why Interpret the Signs has suddenly become a Standard powerhouse
    • How come Chained to the Rocks (and Heliod’s Pilgrim) suddenly stink
    • The mondo combo between Crux of Fate and Silumgar, the Drifting Death
    • … Oh yeah, and some amazing (yet easy to miss) combinations between Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and powerhouses new and rediscovered

    Check it out!
    “The Secrets of Ugin, the Spirit Dragon”

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    Patrick Chapin – @thepchapin
    Michael J Flores – @fivewithflores

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    Tasigur, the Golden Fang (and more)

    Patrick Chapin and Michael J Flores discuss the criteria for banning cards in Modern + the Tasigur, the Golden Fang and the best cards from Fate Reforged.

    Tasigur, the Golden Fang
    Tasigur, the Golden Fang
    “Tasigur, the Golden Fang (and more)” discusses…

    • Speculation on the upcoming Banned List (kinda like everyone else) (but our dynamic duo resolve NOT to talk about the Banned List for an hour)
    • What it means for a card to be broken
    • How Treasure Cruise is better than “half the cards on the [present] Modern Banned List”
    • Criteria for banning a card
    • More of the modes on Abzan Charm!
    • All the great features on Tasigur, the Golden Fang
    • The first reason to “not be embarrassed” to play R/G or Temur?
    • Khans or Dragons?
      (which dragons)
    • If Manifest can make Trail of Mystery or Secret Plans happen (when Morph, alone, couldn’t)
    • And More!

    Your Hosts:

    Patrick Chapin – @thepchapin
    Michael J Flores – @fivewithflores

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    Abzan Aggro and Warden of the First Tree

    “Abzan Aggro and Warden of the First Tree” discusses…

    Identifying good cards… and playing them!

    How and when to “kill your darlings” in deck building. When do you, say, cut a Sakura-Tribe Elder, Goblin Piledriver… Or Courser of Kruphix? <-- This is a key deck building superpower!

    The secrets of the Abzan Aggro deck that Patrick and other top Pro players ran at Grand Prix Denver (including a second-place “steak knives” finish by friend, friend, and friend of the ‘cast Matt Sperling).

    Matt Sperling’s Abzan Aggro (care of Paul Rietzl)

    2 Bile Blight
    1 Herald of Torment
    2 Hero’s Downfall
    4 Thoughtseize

    4 Abzan Charm
    3 Anafenza, the Foremost
    4 Fleecemane Lion
    3 Rakshasa Deathdealer
    4 Siege Rhino
    2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor

    4 Heir of the Wilds

    2 Wingmate Roc

    3 Caves of Koilos
    2 Forest
    2 Llanowar Wastes
    2 Plains
    4 Temple of Malady
    2 Temple of Silence
    4 Sandsteppe Citadel
    2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Windswept Heath

    sideboard:
    2 Bile Blight
    1 Dark Betrayal
    2 Drown in Sorrow
    1 Murderous Cut
    3 Back to Nature
    2 Hunt the Hunter
    3 Glare of Heresy
    1 Wingmate Roc

    Contextualizing Abzan Aggro for a post-Fate Reforged world… Where Patrick and Michael talk about newcomer Warden of the First Tree!

    Warden of the First Tree
    Warden of the First Tree

    Many Warden of the First Tree ideas, and in-depth analysis of the card!

    What are you waiting for? Listen to this great new episode!

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    Fate Reforged Asks – Ginger or Mary Ann?

    This Podcast Discusses:

    • Current Standard
    • Fate Reforged spoilers (in particular Soulfire Grand Master and Jeskai Sage)

    What does Patrick Chapin’s New Year’s Eve party bus have to do with a mid-2000’s Tsuyoshi Fujita deck design?

    Our hosts discuss Standard – reviewing Mike’s Star City Super Invitational Qualifier Top 4, possibly in preparation of Patrick’s upcoming hometown event, Grand Prix Denver.

    Mike’s R/W deck, as played:

    2 Chandra, Pyromaster
    4 Lightning Strike
    4 Magma Jet
    4 Monastery Swiftspear
    4 Stoke the Flames

    3 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
    4 Chained to the Rocks
    3 Heliod’s Pilgrim
    4 Seeker of the Way
    4 Wingmate Roc

    4 Battlefield Forge
    1 Evolving Wilds
    10 Mountain
    1 Plains
    4 Temple of Triumph
    4 Wind-Scarred Crag

    sb:
    2 Arc Lightning
    2 Chandra Pyromaster
    2 Sarkan, the Dragonspeaker
    3 Elspeth, Sun’s Champion
    2 End Hostilities
    4 Erase

    Potential future state of Mike’s R/W deck, via Patrick’s suggestions (sorry, Taylor Swiftspear):

    2 Chandra, Pyromaster
    1 Dragon Mantle
    4 Lightning Strike
    4 Magma Jet
    4 Stoke the Flames

    4 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
    4 Chained to the Rocks
    1 Elspeth, Sun’s Champion
    4 Heliod’s Pilgrim
    4 Seeker of the Way
    4 Wingmate Roc

    4 Battlefield Forge
    1 Evolving Wilds
    10 Mountain
    1 Plains
    4 Temple of Triumph
    4 Wind-Scarred Crag

    sb:
    1 Anger of the Gods
    2 Arc Lightning
    2 Chandra Pyromaster
    2 Sarkan, the Dragonspeaker
    2 Elspeth, Sun’s Champion
    2 End Hostilities
    4 Erase

    “Meaningful decisions are overrated.”
    -Patrick Chapin

    A general discussion of the great Fate Reforged two drops Soulfire Grand Master and Jeskai Sage. Did we say “great”? Interesting discussion from Patrick turns Mike around on a previously not-loved Jeskai Sage.

    Editor’s Note: Patrick and Mike muse on using Soulfire Grand Master to recycle Temporal Tresspass. Temporal Trespass exiles itself so this is not a possible interaction.

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    Whip of Erebos for Christmas!

    Merry Christmas from Top Level Podcast and Whip of Erebos!

    Whip of Erebos
    Whip of Erebos keeps giving and giving, card advantage and life points… Like Santa.
    You can unwrap this week’s Top Level Podcast [present] to learn the answers to these exciting questions:

    • What is “the most controversial thing anyone has ever said” (according to Mike)?
    • Same Answer — What card (that Patrick won a Pro Tour with / basically always plays) does he now think might not be playable at all?
    • What deck (that lots of people consider Standard Tier One) does Paul Rietzl think might be “the worst deck to ever win a match of Magic”?How do you get Patrick Chapin to play some random card?
    • Why does Patrick no longer think that Banishing Light is comparable to Hero’s Downfall?
    • What is the difference between Incinerate and Lightning Bolt (as applied to Standard)?

    … All of that is in the first ten minutes!

    There is an hour-plus more of Whip of Erebos / Heliod’s Pilgrim / Sultai Reanimator / Boros Beatdown chats.

    Merry Christmas!

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    Mike’s Abzan-ish Auras

    4 Doomwake Giant
    1 Whip of Erebos

    2 Karametra, God of Harvests
    4 Siege Rhino

    4 Courser of Kruphix
    4 Eidolon of Blossoms
    2 Nylea’s Presence
    4 Sylvan Caryatid

    2 Banishing Light
    4 Chained to the Rocks
    1 Elspeth, Sun’s Champion
    4 Heliod’s Pilgrim

    2 Evolving Wilds
    5 Forest
    1 Mountain
    2 Plains
    1 Swamp
    4 Temple of Plenty
    1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Windswept Heath
    4 Wooded Foothills

    Sideboard
    4 Thoughtseize
    1 Whip of Erebos
    4 Reclamation Sage
    2 Banishing Light
    1 Elspeth, Sun’s Champion
    3 End Hostilities

    The Truth About Jeskai Ascendancy

    To open, Mike “goes deep” (a la Patrick) to talk about THE TRUTH.

    What is true? What does it mean to be true in Magic? Useful? … A philosophy of Magic (and life) to start a discussion of this transformational Magic: The Gathering card —

    Jeskai Ascendancy
    Jeskai Ascendancy
    Just how good is Jeskai Ascendancy? Mike has it — at least possibly — as the Number One Card in all of Standard Magic: The Gathering.

    Can Jeskai Ascendancy crack Patrick’s Top 10 for Standard? Top five? Was this a miss for episode one (advocating Siege Rhino) or episode three (saying Mantis Rider was THE reason to play Jeskai colors in Standard)?

    Well I guess you’ll just have to listen to find out!

    Over the course of this epic hour-and-a-half Patrick and Mike talk about Dylan Donegan’s domination of the Standard portion of the recent Star City Games Invitational in Seattle (with Jeskai Ascendancy)… As well as Patrick’s Pantheon teammate Sam Black and his utilization of Jeskai Ascendancy in the Legacy portion of the same tournament.

    What would Mike cut from the Standard Jeskai Ascendancy deck?

    Why did Sam play Wind Zendikon in a Constructed deck… Let alone in the massive Legacy format?

    You’re still going to have to listen to find out.

    Dylan Donegan’s Standard Jeskai Ascendancy Deck:

    4 Treasure Cruise

    2 Jeskai Charm
    4 Jeskai Ascendancy

    2 Chandra, Pyromaster
    4 Goblin Rabblemaster
    4 Hordeling Outburst
    4 Lightning Strike
    4 Stoke the Flames

    4 Raise the Alarm
    4 Seeker of the Way

    3 Battlefield Forge
    3 Flooded Strand
    1 Island
    2 Mountain
    4 Mystic Monastery
    2 Plains
    1 Temple of Epiphany
    4 Shivan Reef
    4 Temple of Triumph

    Sideboard
    4 Disdainful Stroke
    1 Negate
    3 Arc Lightning
    1 Elspeth, Sun’s Champion
    2 Erase
    2 Glare of Heresy
    2 Hushwing Gryff

    Sam Black’s Legacy Jeskai Ascendancy Combo Deck:

    1 Chrome Mox
    4 Lotus Petal

    4 Brainstorm
    2 Dig Through Time
    4 Fatestitcher
    4 Force of Will
    4 Gitaxian Probe
    4 Mental Note
    3 Pact of Negation
    4 Thought Scour
    4 Treasure Cruise
    2 Wind Zendikon

    4 Jeskai Ascendancy

    2 Gut Shot

    1 Flooded Strand
    1 Island
    4 Misty Rainforest
    1 Polluted Delta
    1 Scalding Tarn
    3 Tundra
    3 Volcanic Island

    Sideboard
    2 Pithing Needle
    1 Echoing Truth
    1 Flusterstorm
    1 Hydroblast
    1 Forked Bolt
    2 Lightning Bolt
    3 Pyroblast
    1 Sulfur Elemental
    3 Swords to Plowshares

    … All this plus a couple of Jonny Magic stories and mad appreciation (and more props) for the beloved godfather of card advantage, Brian Weissman in:

    THE TRUTH ABOUT JESKAI ASCENDANCY

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    You Don’t Want to Utter End a Mantis Rider

    Before we get started with Mantis Rider and this week’s episode, some general stuff…

    Yes! Patrick has made the Top 4 of the World Championship! More on this at the Mother Ship.

    Pretty much everything you have asked for is now up and running. So if you want to follow Top Level Podcast on iTunes or another RSS feed… You can!

    We’d love if you’d follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube

    Okay! Now onto Mantis Rider…

    mantis-rider
    Mantis Rider is a leader in the Standard card pool, not only on “rate” but context.

    Magic: The Gathering Pro Tour Hall of Famer Patrick Chapin and Michael J Flores discuss some historical 3/3 creatures with haste for three mana; and contextualize Mantis Rider among this pantheon of performers. What gives Mantis Rider such a good “rate”?

    What is rate anyway? Our hosts talk about ROI principles in not just deck design, but game design!

    Most players can look at a Mantis Rider and realize that it should be an efficient card for its mana cost… But what makes it such a good option contextually? We’ll give you a hint… You don’t want to Utter End a Mantis Rider! … Not only does Mantis Rider ride its own efficiencies, but it can take advantage of inefficiencies elsewhere in the Standard environment to not just perform, but over-perform.

    “There are more good cards than you can play in your deck.”

    How can you determine what cards you actually should play? Figure out what cards are good to begin with, contextualize how they are positioned in the metagame, and predict the perceptions of others to improve your skills. [How]

    A discussion of “Leveling” in deck design, and leveling in general. How do you get to the fabled next level [let alone our own “top” level]?

    “You have to metagame against the winners’ circle”.

    Finally, Next Level Magic is back! Check out Patrick’s first book, remastered and back in print (along with all of Patrick and Michael’s Magic: The Gathering books) via the links below:

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    Butcher of the Horde is Overrated! (but still very good)

    Butcher of the HordeButcher of the Horde

    Pro Tour Champion Patrick Chapin joins Resident Genius Michael J Flores for the second episode of Top Level Podcast!

    In this episode the intrepid duo cover a variety of topics, both Butcher of the Horde-related and not-so-Butcher of the Horde-related.

    Before you give it a listen, make sure to check out Top Level Podcast on Facebook and Twitter 🙂

    In this episode…

    • A style of deck design you might not know about but that has taken down multiple Pro Tours!
    • Why it is important to play your lands in a particular order, and what to do when a card you draw might change your plan
    • The exciting (but ultimately not-ready-for-prime-time) “All-Stars” deck by Tomoharu Saito
    • The realization of Saito’s master plan by former Player of the Year Brad Nelson
    • A discussion of some very good cards that are all relatively similar in power level… How do you pick between Crackling Doom, Hero’s Downfall, Banishing Light, and Utter End?
    • Selecting cards on basis of mana cost versus mana curve
    • The one thing that sets Butcher of the Horde ultimately on top of Sadisi, Brood Tyrant

    Top Level Podcast is made possible by standing on the shoulders of giants. Patrick and Michael would like to thank…

    • Kar Yung Tom of ManaDeprived
    • Brian David-Marshall of Top 8 Magic
    • Marshall Sutcliffe of Limited Resources
    • Patrick’s mom (of being Patrick’s mom)

    Episode 2: Butcher of the Horde is Overrated! (but still very good)

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