What Can We Learn from Pious Interdiction?

Often competitive players will look at a card like Pious Interdiction — which has what might be a desirable effect if at a hefty cost — and discard it out of hand.

But when was the last time you asked yourself what drove that kind of thinking? Are there contexts where you would want a card like this? If so, when?

Mike — winner of his Midnight Prerelease — can certainly point to a time!

Pious Interdiction can be a heck of a Limited card

That’s right! Pious Interdiction can certainly get it done in forty card decks!

… That’s actually how Patrick and Mike got into the discussion this week! Mike was lucky enough to open four copies of Pious Interdiction, and they did such a great job of nullifying his opponents’ key flyers or fat green creatures he was almost ready to sign up for Pious Interdiction in Constructed.

Almost.

The problem — part of the problem anyway — with Pious Interdiction is just the cost.

The cost is both the “right answer” and too simple of an answer, though. While this aura is great at interacting with threats like Sealed Deck where so many of an opponent’s cards will be more expensive than in Standard, four mana can be a big ask in sixty card decks.

Patrick is quick to caution that general rules about how much things “should” cost for certain effects can be foolhardy. We must always be mindful of context.

Pious Interdiction v. the World

For the current Standard, at least, Pious Interdiction has plenty of context around it, helping to define is viability (or non-viability).

Cast Out also costs four mana, but has so much flexibility around Flash, Cycling, and the option to exile non-creature permanents. For that matter, Cast Out does a much better job, generally, of interacting with creatures! Cast Out isn’t always better for four mana, as there are times you will want to gain two life… But it’s usually better.

If you’re really in the market for an overcosted Pacifism that gains life, might we suggest a Desert’s Hold?

Desert’s Hold doesn’t let you get away with deck building free or anything… You have to build your deck with Deserts — and you have to have Deserts either in play or in the graveyard to get the bonus — but it both costs less mana and gains more life than Pious Interdiction. Yet Desert’s Hold is far from a popular Constructed card.

Join Pro Tour Hall of Famer Patrick Chapin and Michael J Flores in this eye-opening theoretical discussion, plus more — much more — actual Constructed quality cards from Ixalan in this week’s episode!

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Vance’s Blasting Cannons: The Final Flip

Last week, when gushing over flip cards like Search for Azcanta, we hadn’t yet had the opportunity to see the red member of the cycle.

Unlike a certain blue transformer for two, this card is a bit controversial. Where, if anywhere, would you want to play it? Would a red aggressive deck ever want to run it over either an indestructible god or a Rowdy Crew?

“Well,” Mike points out, “at least the flip condition is a ‘may'” …

Outpost Siege v. Vance’s Blasting Cannons

Is Outpost Siege where we set the bar?The most obvious point of comparison for this new card is Outpost Siege.

For its part, Outpost Siege served every role from “main-deck four-of in R/W aggro” to “sideboard role player competing with its day’s Chandra at the four”. Regardless of how you want to slice it, Outpost Siege was a stronger card than Vance’s Blasting Cannons (at least the front side).

To wit:

• Outpost Siege had two different modes: Not only was it a potential source of incremental card advantage over time, the “Dragons” setting was a way to win.
• Outpost Siege was not a Legendary permanent. You could have multiple copies in play! Mike probably still has nightmares about facing Sam Black with two Khans and a Dragons on camera
• Outpost Siege allowed you to play both spells and lands as extra resources. Vance’s Blasting Cannons is kinda sorta only 60% of an Outpost Siege (again, with half the options). So 30-33% on its face? How annoying would it be to reveal a land (that you can’t play) and then not draw a land (when you need one)? Gross, right?

But the bar isn’t whether this is better or worse than Outpost Siege in the abstract; the front-side is pretty much worse. The question is if it is good enough to play anyway.

And we can’t answer that question without addressing…

Vance’s Blasting Cannons // Spitfire Bastion

Is the payoff on Spitfire Bastion worth the work?

“Would you play a card that read “RR4. Enchantment. 2R, Tap: Deal three damage to target creature or player?”
-Patrick

Probably not?

While Mike wouldn’t play such a conjectural card (probably), it is useful to think of the final flip as potentially three different cards:

1. The aforementioned 30-33% of an Outpost Siege: This card is a source of incremental card advantage that pays off only after you’ve untapped successfully with it in play. More than that, it really only pays off after multiple turns.
2. The conjectural six mana enchantment. This version flips immediately, gives you a potential mana boost (you can still, say, cast a Shock or Magma Spray), but will only offer the full value at very high mana / late in the game
3. Spitfire Bastion

Spitfire Bastion is a source of inevitability, not unlike fellow land Ramanup Ruins. Decks like U/R Control, for example, can’t allow this to flip, because no matter how well they close out on creatures, they will likely lose the game three life points at a time.

Mike — ever fearful of Kor Firewalker — points out that as a colorless source of damage, Spitfire Bastion can kill the hell out of Protection from Red creatures.

So what do you think about this last transformer? The Top Level Podcast boys revisit some of the others and a whole mess of Ixalan cards in this week’s episode.

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This week MichaelJ is flipping out over flip cards! First among them? The Search for Azcanta!

Check Out Search for Azcanta:

“Oh hell yeah!”
-Patrick

We’ll come out and say it to begin with: Search for Azcanta is probably undercosted. There have been effects like this in the past, but they didn’t cost two mana.

The front side of this card offers powerful library manipulation. Sure. It sets up the top of your deck. But that’s not all! Search for Azcanta not only pushes aside clunky or expensive spells, it sets up graveyard synergies!

This card is great with flashback, eternalize, or Renegade Rallier.

Subtly, the “flip” ability is a may, not a must. While you will usually want to be flipping it, there are times that Search for Azcanta will be better for you than Azcanta, the Sunken Ruin. Don’t worry: You get to pick.

Search for Azcanta Becomes Azcanta, the Sunken Ruin

“… more powerful in play than Library of Alexandria…”
-Patrick

Two things on this one:

First of all, it’s a kind of weird Rampant Growth. If you have Search for Azcanta on the battlefield and say four lands… When it flips, you will have five or six mana (depending on land drop). That, in and of itself, is a pretty big get for blue.

Of course, Azcanta, the Sunken Ruin is actually just awesome once you get it online. Getting a de facto Impulse every turn will put you way ahead in grinding matchups, and will threaten to bury the opponent in card advantage.

Further, this card is just begging for you to cheat! No, not “cheat” in the sense of getting banned from DCI sanctioned tournaments… Cheating the flip condition. While the front-side enchantment will get you to the point where it will flip eventually, there is no reason to wait around. Cards like Strategic Planning are screaming to help you flip to the legendary land.

Both sides of this card seem like they will be awesome in Approach of the Second Sun decks. Either side will help dig you to your second Approach.

But Wait! There’s More!

While Search for Azcanta has our boys the most excited, there are tons of other flip cards worth talking about. We love Legions Landing, generally dislike Arguel’s Blood Fast. But where and when will even that be played?

Gotta check out the podcast, to find out:

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We teased it earlier on Instagram…

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… Now it’s time to reveal the real card itself:

Lookout’s Dispersal!

Yes, yes — this sweet new counterspell is kinda sorta a Metallic Rebuke for the Pirates tribe.

What if, by the way, you try this with Metallic Rebuke in a Pirates deck exploiting a lot of treasure tokens? Pretty cool, huh?

In a special exclusive bonus podcast, Patrick and Michael go over their first impressions on Lookout’s Dispersal, a new Pirates-themed instant from Ixalan:

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“Somewhere between ‘sweet’ and ‘backbreaking’ … ”
-Mike

Kick back, pop in your earbuds, and give a listen to our first look at Ixalan:

Ixalan Changes Planeswalker Rules

Jace, Cunning Castaway: Ixalan PlaneswalkerMichael notes that Jace seems to have gotten ripped in the Gatewatch.

Patrick notes that Jace, Cunning Castaway boasts one of the fastest Planeswalker Ultimates ever. You might as well Ultimate when Jace’s loyalty hits 5 BTW; while the token copies are not Legendary, Jace, Cunning Castaway itself is.

The new Planeswalker Uniqueness v. Legendary rule will change how Planeswalkers get played. Having more Jaces in play is cool and all (and this one actually does that for you) but the big winner has to be Gideon of the Trials.

People just didn’t play Gideon of the Trials because they were already playing Gideon, Ally of Zendikar; now there is no disincentive. More importantly, having more than one kind of Gideon in play will give players greater protection for their Platinum Angel-like Ultimate.

Ixalan and the Treasure Theme

Captain Lannery StormLayered and flexible, the Captain is probably Mike’s favorite card in Ixalan.

Use her treasure now! She is basically a 3/2 haste creature.

Use her treasure later! You can stockpile for a large attack, or save the mana to bust out Glorybringer on the quick!

Use her treasure for mana! What about not pumping the Captain, but just sacrificing her treasure to cast a Shock, Magma Spray… Or even a Fatal Push?

Exploring Ixalan

Tishana’s WayfinderIt’s all the things Mike never should have loved…

• Sometimes it’s Borderland Ranger
• Sometimes it’s Gnarled Mass
• Generally it’s inconsistent and unpredictable

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Pro Tour Champion Patrick Chapin and Resident Genius Michael J. Flores talk all the Ixalan that’s fit to discuss; spoiled cards, flavor and aesthetics; and of course brewing! Check out Top Level Podcast’s first take on Ixalan right here, right now!

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